I cant take it anymore, gangster in the army??

I have been in the army for 13 years now and I have seen alot of changes over the last few years. Basic trainning changed from hard to easy, Gold teeth allowed while in uniform (the marines and navy have regulations to stop that but not the army) Soldier having more rights then their supervisors..I love being a soldier and doing whatever is asked of me, Standing tall and being sharp, professional. A leader, A NCO. I can not stand for this new army. What do we do when we go to iraq and a soldier is not trained to standard and it is left up to the leaders but when the soldier complains they when..How can I safe them? I want to quit..but I have 6 more years to go...any advice? My unit even has a gang with tattoos "Da Fam" Whats next.....


My worry is a soldier getting killed because he or she does not want to get down when told todo so and they get hit, or Soldiers not looking like soldiers marching along with gold teeth and flashing gang crap mixed in with soldier being true soldiers.

I cant take it anymore, gangster in the army??
i agree. the army is supposed to be a professional environment. its sad to see it being made into a playground for dirt bags.
Reply:Actually, in reference to the gold teeth issue, AR 670-1 states (when I last read it) that jewelry is t be limited to a watch and two rings. Nowhere does it allow gold teeth. My senior SGL made sure to point this out at PLDC.





As far as the new Army, I'm with you. Basically, someone has to get it back on track. May as well be you, right?
Reply:Amen, but as long as the numbers get low they will keep lowering the standards.
Reply:Sounds allot like the Army I was in, 62 - 65, won't go into details but it was a mess in more ways than one, Would say hang in as best can and get your Ben's Sarge.
Reply:i agree my mom was in the navy and the same things made her mad!
Reply:I think they significantly lower the standards during war just to make their numbers. Its a shame, I know right before I got out of the Marines(Jan 08) they were cracking down on Tattoos like crazy and were starting to have problems with gang members joining and operating within the Corps. I had to get out, to many S**t-bags were getting in.
Reply:I grew up wanting to be in the army. I'm currently 17 years old and with a lot of researching, I've found the army has started becoming a little embarrassing. The standards are set too low. The current physical requirements I would've made as a 13 or 14 year old. That's no exaggeration. I wanted to join the army and be proud that I'm doing something amazing. But even basic training looks like a summer camp. I'd rather have a smaller turn-out of recruits each year than to have a disgraced army. They should raise the standards to back where it used to be. Physical requirements I think should be greater than it used to be with all the more efficient training methods used today.





I'm joining the marines.
Reply:Sounds prejudice to me. Get out if you do not like it. Move on. What does gold teeth have to do with following orders(not that I like gold teeth) sounds little like you are talking about black people "DA FAM", "Gangsters" Sounds like you need some sensitivity training. Change with it or move on nothing stays the same good or bad.
Reply:Come on guy, stop whinning and fix-it. Are you a NCO or a SGT. A SGT will put up with crap like that, but an NCO will fix it. Your problem is not Army wide. Discipline must be instilled by the NCO. If you are not being supported, then you are either doing the wrong thing or you have an inept chain of command, either way, FIX-IT and stop whinning and making this great organization look bad.



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